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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@Cara I hate to get pulled back into this bullshit echo chamber of full blown lunacy, but I can't let this one stand. What I was saying "is inching up there" is, not, TALKING ABOUT RAPE. The action that I was referring to as "inching up" there, was people, based on a video that PROVES NOTHING, not just saying flat out and with complete assurance that he IS a rapist, but taking it a step further to track him down, find his name, put it out there for the psychos on the internet to play with, and even goaded people into taking action against him. I have no problem talking about rape in fact I think if we did it more often shit like this wouldn't happen as much. But this ganging up on this guy because you WISH he had done something so you could crucify him is just sick. So if you don't think that those actions against an(for all you and I know) innocent person are getting close to rape, then YOU are insane.
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@Julie Gillis@facebook You raise a very good point about his self-awareness. I think probably the issue for me was that I viewed it as making fun of himself badly but I am fully aware that I could be wrong. Also I agree about letting it go. Thank you for the intelligent dialogue. At least at this point I don't feel quite so bewildered.
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@Julie Gillis@facebook I did read it and I agree. Please don't take what I am about to say as a defense of rape but I think it all speaks to what I am getting at. Ignorance is no excuse, but it seemed like this guy just didn't know ANYTHING about women or how to read them. Which again does not mean anyone has the right to rape someone, but it does help to clarify. It's very possible this woman had had bad experiences in the past that informed her decisions and actions, making them less clear to this guy. Which doesn't excuse rape but at least goes to explain the disconnect and confusion. And that's what I think we are both speaking to. I guess I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, and maybe I shouldn't, and assuming it wasn't as coercive as people make it sound, but either way he clearly needs some guidance on how to deal with members of the opposite sex. Whether he gets it in personal therapy or jail is, in my opinion, up to the courts and not the internet. Because after all the internet doesn't have the best track record in the biz.
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@Julie Gillis@facebook Again thank you. Honestly, another reason this is so bothersome is that I have two daughters-4 and 2. And I even said to my wife after we watched the video, since I didn't hear rape in that story am I setting our girls up to be raped? Because while I would have been upset to hear that story about one of my girls, I wouldn't have called the cops based on his story. And what I'm hearing is that makes me not just a bad father, but a criminal one. Also thank you for the links. The yes means yes one was really good and one I intend to read with my girls and more importantly with my son(he's the latest edition at 6 months). Because I do think this is important. I guess to wrap up or encapsulate all this- The story was gross, rape is deplorable, but the response I've seen to this post/story is just disgusting. I do actually agree with most of these people-that rape is one of the worst things you can do as a human-but I'll be damned if the resulting behavior I've seen isn't inching up there along side it. Most of you people should be as ashamed as the villain you've created in your mind. Not you, Julie. You are actually helping to keep my faith in humanity intact.
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@Julie Gillis@facebook I agree that there is alot to be said for letting the majority(even if it's the internet) decide. My issue is that until now I had not seen any debate. It was simply, this guys a rapist and we should get him. And I SO didn't see that, that it bothered me when nearly everyone else did. I was on another thread initially(not sure what website) and a girl named optimiss or something, at first said basically what I did-It sounded creepy and awkward and not a story I would share- but not rape. And it ended with so many people telling her(as someone who WAS raped we later found out) that she was pro-rape and just as bad as a rapist; that she said the vitriol coming from people was to much and she was crying and had to leave. And that what has come out of this. It just bothers me. I was bullied and beat up and picked on, grades 1-12(because I was always the shortest kid in school)and what I have seen come out of all this is not people rising up to defend this woman or even people unable to speak for themselves, it's people looking for blood because they are angry hate filled people with a need to vent it anonymously to any perceived wrongdoing. I am not saying there should be no justice and I am definitely not saying that if he did in fact rape her he shouldn't stand trial. But this is mob mentality at it's worse. This is people breaking into store to steal just because it's easy. People have an issue with rape. Good. They should. But taking your anger at rapists out on this guy because some blogger convicted him in her mind and on her site is just a terrible facet of humanity that seems to be championed on the internet way too much.
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@six_dffrnt_wys And thank you. It honest to god was getting to a Zoolander-"Am-I-Taking-Crazy-Pills" point, where it seemed so obvious this guy was not a rapist, just awkward and terrible with women, but everyone else was not just sure he did it, not just sure it was full on sociopathic rape, but they wanted blood.And it got to me.
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@Jason Farr@facebook No I am not trolling I am legitimately trying to get to the bottom of how everyone like you is so sure. If I were trolling I would be instigating. I'm not. I am trying to have a discussion. So if I understand you correctly you are upset that I took your words, twisted them and convicted you of a crime you don't feel you committed and that's unfair? Sound familiar? I apologize if I took your comments like,"Saying he is a rapist, when he is" to mean you had already convicted him as a rapist. If you meant "he might be" by saying "he is" that's just me taking you at your word. And as far as me saying YOU were the one cheering him to kill himself, I didn't. I used your comment to illustrate people trying to hurt/ruin/make this guy feel like shit/what-ever-the-fuck-YOU-want-to-call-it. However I don't know the tone in which you wrote that post. I assumed you wouldn't be upset by it. And if you read online that someone wouldn't be upset by your suicide, would that make you feel good?
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@unicorn porn Right and you would be okay with the internet ganging up on this human being because he did...what? What information do you have that has allowed you to pass this judgement. Also, never did I even imply that rape is the same as calling someone names. What I did imply was that IF he didn't do anything wrong, according to this woman, but people like you gleefully cheer himself on to killing himself, that quasi-murder would start to inch up there to the life shatteringly awful stratosphere of rape. And I guess that's a point your missing. If we eventually hear from this woman,and she even whispers the word rape or says she was even sort of uncomfortable with it, I'm with you. The internet should be loosed and it's full unbridled awfulness brought to bear on the head of every rapist and child molester. But it's mob thinkers like you that are the problem. You have no idea who these people are, but you sit with your blank profile pic and your shitty internet name and anonymously call for this named and faced human to be ganged up on. That is cowardly and not unlike the actions of the rapists you claim to be up for gettin'.
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@Budd Rice@twitter Oh my god! I just noticed YOU were the first person I saw and then copy/pasted, asking to go after this guy! Or were you talking about the pleasant "cyber-lynch mob" that leaves people un-ruined. Wow! Just wow.
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On One Night at Asssscat, or What to Do With a Date Rape Monologue
@KidPresentable Seriously? This is just the saddest thing ever. I don't know how there isn't "report" option on this site, but this is a little too far. Where in anything I've said is your evidence of me raping my wife? What must it be like to be as awful as you clearly are? By the way, my evidence of you being human trash is that I sought to help and defend a human being who I viewed as being unfairly attacked and your response was to say I rape my wife. What a piece of shit.